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Meeting 42 Minutes

Teleconference, March 10th , 2008

A quorum of nine out of eleven voting members present. One non-voting member is also present. Attendance and voter status indicated on the roster web page.

Attendees

  • Voting members: Andrew Piziali, Darren Galpin, Serrie Chapman, Joe Hupcey, Mike McNamara, Charu Aggarwal

  • Non-voting members: Joe Daniels, Yoav Hollander

1. Call to Order

Call to order on April 14th 2008 at 9:08 am PDT (1708 UTC)

Andrew reminded members to mail a message to “rollcall@ieee1647.org” in order to record their meeting attendance.

2. Approval of Meeting 41 Minutes

Darren Galpin made a motion to approve the meeting 41 minutes.

Mike McNamara seconded the motion.

Motion approved.

3. Status Update

Andrew: Ballot ― Our draft has qualified for RevCom early consideration. The P1647-2008 ballot process and results will be considered by RevCom on April 28. I see no reason why they should not bless that and pass it on to IEEE-SA for approval. This means that the schedule might be pulled forward by the IEEE. Any comments/discussion?

Joe H: This means that we are in the final stages, right?

Andrew: Yes. RevCom will pass their recommendation to the IEEE-SA, who will then vote to approve or not. RevCom will consider it on April 28 and then vote on it a couple of weeks later. The IEEE-SA generally approves things once it has gone through RevCom. The purpose of RevCom is to make sure that all of the procedural and ballot rules have been followed.

Joe H: So, this is an official check for the 2008 approval?

Andrew: Yes. I don't know how early after the early consideration meeting by RevCom that the IEEE-SA meets, but I will find that out. I am working on the remaining editorial and code changes,and I will circulate these next month. We also need an officer election, so I will contact our returning officer to set up an election for the May time frame. I expect the IEEE to approve the draft in June, and we then submit a P1647-2010 PAR for the fall, before the official release of the P1647-2008 standard. Any questions or comments?

Joe H: That seems clear. The sequence will be in the meeting minutes?

Andrew: Yes, I'll share my notes with Serrie. This is the current schedule:

  • April

    • Complete remaining editorial changes to final draft

    • RevCom early consideration

    • Officer election

  • May

    • RevCom approves P1647-2008

    • Working group reviews editorial changes

  • June

    • IEEE-SA approves draft

    • Submit P1647-2010 PAR

  • Fall '08

    • IEEE publishes P1647-2008

Joe D: We'll know by Memorial Day whether we have a “yes” or “no” so you will know before DAC if there are announcements to make.

Andrew: We have had a request from Infineon for define-as-computed for inclusion in the 2010 standard. It is absent from the previous versions of the standard. Specman currently supports this and has done for some time. It would be good to see it embodied in the language rather than a tack on. Any comments?

Joe H: It is Cadence's policy to donate all e language technology and such. For anything which has arisen and has not been captured in the standards, our policy is to donate that. Define-as-computed is defined in the manuals, but not to the same rigor as other language element, but we can use this as a reference. Cadence will donate it all and I am supportive of this.

Andrew: Define-as-computed allows the language to be syntactically and semantically extended. It allows compile time code to be included and added, and is a somewhat involved part of the language which is quite powerful but has found limited use.

Joe H: Darren, it came from Infineon; is it widely used in Infineon?

Darren: It came from another business group after I put a request for anything wanted around Specman users in Infineon. It is used in the COM group, but not in AI.

4. Editor

Joe D: Nothing to say but congrats on not having to do a recirculation ballot. It is almost unheard of.

5. Other Business

Andrew: Please remember to mail rollcall@ieee1647.org to record attendance.

6. Call For Essential Patents

The IEEE-SA updated the patent policy effective April 2008. The details are available in updated slide set at: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf (See “Patent related” from the IEEE 1647 home page, “Slides about IEEE Patent Policy”). If you believe that any patent claims are essential patent claims, please inform the working group. Review the posted slides for more information.

7. Next Meeting

Andrew: June 9th, 9 am PDT.

Joe H: It is the first day of DAC. The 16th might be better?

Andrew: Or the week earlier - any preferences?

Joe D: Either way?

Joe H: Might make sense to do 2nd June before DAC.

Andrew: So 2nd June.

8. Adjourn

Serrie made a motion to adjourn the meeting.

Darren seconded the motion.

Motion approved.

Meeting adjourned at 9:23 am PDT.



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