Meeting 47 Minutes

Teleconference, January 12, 2009

A quorum of five out of eight voting members present. Four non-voting members are also present. Attendance and voter status indicated on the roster web page.

Monday, January 12, 2009, 1706 UTC; 9:06 am Pacific Standard Time

Attendees

• Voting members: Andrew Piziali, Darren Galpin, Joseph Hupcey, Mark Strickland, Serrie Chapman

• Non-voting members: Dave Von Bank, Henry Von Bank, Joe Daniels, Matan Vax

1. Call to Order

• Call to order meeting 47 on January 12 at 9:06 am PDT (1700 UTC)

• Andrew reminded members to mail a message to "rollcall@ieee1647.org" in order to record their meeting attendance.

2. Approval of December 1 Meeting 46 Minutes

• Solicit motion to approve the minutes

  • Darren motioned

  • Dave Von Bank seconded

  • Minutes approved

3. Status Update

• News

  • IEEE-SA policies and procedures changes—mostly administrative changes. IEEE-SA must now “maintain the authoritative database of standards development participants.” I received 155 responses to my message to the WG to update their contact information.

• December 1 Action Items

  • Andrew Piziali — will investigate the P1800 funding structure. Karen Pieper wrote “[P1800 is] entity based is so that we can assess each member an equal percentage of our expenditures for any given year. We budget for the year, collect an assessment, and then spend it.” — Done

  • Andrew Piziali — will discuss P1647 participation with Victor Berman (DASC chair) and Michael Kipness (DASC IEEE rep) as a wiki contributor for the purpose of maintaining voting privileges. — Pending

  • Andrew Piziali — will post technical documents contributed by Cadence for each of the seven language additions under consideration. Awaiting define-as-computed, interface ports and parameterized types documents from Matan. Matan is awaiting legal paperwork (letter of assurance). Stan Krolikoski is processing this. Joe and Matan discussed whether or not there are any patents pending. Matan does not think so. Generation semantics chapter of LRM will be updated along with any other documents that are out-of-date. — Pending

  • Joe Hupcey — will look into the possibility of soliciting a Cadence technical writer for the P1647-2010 LRM. Joe confirmed Al Calco is interested in writing this LRM. His management needs to approve this. Joe talked with Joe D. about the procedures. Need to close the loop with Al and confirm with his management. — Done

  • Joe Hupcey — will identify a driver customer for each language addition on the table and ask them to join the eWG and contribute both labor and, if necessary, funding. Andrew and I are doing to mail a call-for-participation to the various online forums. Will address this together. — Pending

  • Serrie Chapman — will forward Andrew wiki and bug tracking system references. — Done

• Online forum to discuss e language

  • Andrew : perhaps the specman@yahoo group could be renamed and used for this purpose; we don't want to use any Specman-specific forum

• Named Constraints

  • Matan said these are not supported by Specman nor are there any confirmed plans at the moment for their support

  • What demand for named constraints exists within the user community? Darren: no known requests from Infineon Mark: no one asking for it by name within Cisco, but the general issue of overriding constraints, etc. is present

  • Matan: we know of this requirement for a long time from Cadence customers. There are periodic discussions within Specman development to support this feature.

  • Andrew : inclined to leave it in the items list for now with the possibility of removing it if it is certain there will be no vendor support in 2010

• Working Group Recruiting

  • Participation level — eight voting members at present

  • In conjunction with the database update for DASC

• Schedule

  • February '09

    • Working group election

    • Organize technical task forces

    • Begin review of technical contributions

  • Fall '09

    • Integrate changes into LRM

    • Decide what features is and what is out

  • Spring 2010

    • Ballot P1647-2010

4. Other Business

• Dave Von Bank

  • Will the task forces be organized similarly to the seven donation items?

• Andrew : the proposed task forces are constraints, coverage, macros, ports, types

  • Mail a message to rollcall@ieee1647.org!

5. Call For Essential Patents

• The IEEE-SA updated the patent policy effective April 2008

• The details are available in updated slide set at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf (See "Patent related" from the IEEE 1647 home page, "Slides About IEEE Patent Policy").

• If you believe that any patent claims are essential patent claims, please inform the working group. Review the posted slides for more information.

6. Next Meeting

• February 9 at 9 am PST (1700 UTC)

7. Adjourn

• Darren motioned

• Serrie seconded

• Motion

• Adjourn meeting

Action Items

• Andrew to send Mona Sabet legal letter to Joe H.

• Matan to send Andrew updates for any technical descriptions that are out of date.

• Andrew to explore usage of specman@yahoo online forum for e language discussions.